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Snake Eyes/Scarlett

Snake Eyes/Scarlett

Snake Eyes/Scarlett by VampireWarith
Snake Eyes/Scarlett by VampireWarith

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VampireWarith
Snake Eyes/Scarlett, the most in-love couple and the main couple in the main G.I. Joe comic book (the second being Flint/Lady Jaye), they've loved each other for years. It's been 32 years since June 2014 if you count issue #1 in June 1982.
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe1.shtml
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-1/34
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-1/36

In issue #27, it was Scarlett who was first attracted to Snake Eyes when G.I. Joe was being formed. Scarlett's first assignment was to train the new team in hand-to-hand combat. During the exercises, she met Snake Eyes. While she beat most of the team members, she recognized that Snake Eyes was a superior fighter despite the fact that he had allowed her to beat him, allowing her to keep her dignity and respect with the others. Scarlett was intrigued by his actions and wanted to know more, and as a result, they became very close. They got to know each other even before the crash and Scarlett was the first-person Snake Eyes ever opened up too. When the crash with the helicopter happens, Snake Eyes chose to stay and get Scarlett out even when his face was on fire. The fact that Scarlett still wanted to be with him after his face was burned and his voice gone... that's love... real love.
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe27.shtml
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-27/8


Picture
They come in at number 1 on my list of favorite couples, I've been a fan of them ever since I read the comic book back in the late 80s. Sadly you won't find that many fan art pictures of these two kissing, making-out or being very intimate with each other, which is what lovers are supposed to do... half the time people just show them standing next to each other and fan fiction isn't that much different either... in fact... its worst. There's a lot of fan-made music videos of them, their pretty terrible as well, they do nothing but focus on the shootty cartoons and not on the main comic book. I've only seen 2 music videos based on the comics.

G.I. Joe music video - Summertime sadness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWGLvJBn5zY

I went with the version where Snake Eyes only has a few scars on his face and where his hairstyle is slicked back.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_small/0/2532/1200593-tumblr_ks4whgumin1qa9armo1_50...


Comics
Cobra had captured Scarlett and Snake Eyes goes to rescue her from Destro's Cobra stronghold in an issue with no words or dialog of any kind in Issue #21.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-21

3 years later, its Snake Eyes whose been captured by Cobra but both Scarlett and Storm Shadow go to rescue him in anther silent issue in G.I. Joe Yearbook issue #3.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-yearbook/issue-3

Snake Eyes, Scarlett and the Blind Master go on a rescue mission to save Stalker, Snow Job and Quick Kick in issues #63-67.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-63
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-64/18
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-66/17
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-67/10

At one point Snake wanted to get his face repaired, Scarlett said that he didn't have to, but he wanted to be able to hold her hand and walk down the street and feel the sun shining down on his own face and not on a rubber face mask in issue #93.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/9
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/10
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/11

While trying to protect Snake-Eyes while he was under anesthesia due to his face was healing, she wanted to tell him that she loved him one more time. Scarlett was then shot in the head by the Baroness in G.I. Joe #94.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-94/19

Snake Eyes has only spoke once since the crash, Scarlett was in a coma, and he shouted her name in G.I. Joe #102.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-102/23
When she wakes up, she shouts, "Where am I? …Where's Snake Eyes?" in issues #103-104.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-103/24
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-104
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-104/11
They're reunited in issue #108
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-108/9

It's stated in issue #159 (2010) when it's learned that Zartan disguised himself as Snake Eyes, Duke says, "Snake Eyes would never leave Scarlett in a tight situation. I just verified it by getting past his defenses to slug him out. No way I could do that to the real Snakester."
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-159/6
When he's skinned by a bullet, Scarlett shouts his name "SNAKE EYES!" Storm Shadow gets her out of there, but she protests, "I'm not leaving Snake Eyes!" "NOOOOOO!"
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-159/25

The first page on issue #192 states
After the events of the past few months, Scarlett and Snake Eyes take a much-deserved vacation...
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-192
Issue #193 states
While Snake Eyes and Scarlett get some well-deserved rest in the mountains.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-193

When Mindbender makes a clone of Snake-Eyes, with all the memories and skills of the original, the first thing on his mind is Scarlett. When Scarlett learns that the original Snake-Eyes has been brough back, she wants to get down there instantly. When they met, Snake-Eyes can now talk, since he says her name, and they hug in issue #300.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/3
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/6
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/9
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/24
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/25

The two spend some time at their cabin, Timber II brings Snake-Eyes a new cub to raise. During the night, lying in bed, Snake-Eyes wants to tell Scarlett something, but she stops him and the two embrace in issue #302.
"Scarlett, I want to tell…"
"Not… now."
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/20
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/21
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/22

Unfortunately, he hasn't done much else with them in the canon storyline, he's missed a lot of opportunities, and there's really nothing else I can list. Now I'm not asking for every issue to be about them, although I wouldn't mind a G.I. Joe title that just started them. It does show that they're not needy, they don't always have to be near each other and they're not worried 24/7 when one is off on a solo mission, they both have absolute confidences in each other. But there needs to be more loving scenes between them.


Non-Canon and Incompetent Writers
When G.I. Joe was under Image Comics and Devil's Due, he did do a few more romantic scenes with them... but that storyline became non-canon and when that happens, they pretty much become meaningless. There have been a few other writers who have written very touching scenes (small ones) with them in alternate realities such as Brandon Jerwa, Mark Powers, Tim Seeley, Mike O'Sullivan, John Ney Reiber, John Barber and Tom Scioli.

As for the rest... others have not even tried or have failed completely and that would include other G.I. Joe titles, all the animation series and films. That list of lazy writers who are nothing but hacks would include the people at Sunbow, Stephen Sommers, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, Warren Ellis, Josh Blaylock, Andy Schmidt, Henry Gilroy, Eric Karten, Chuck Dixon, Aubrey Sitterson and Paul Allor.


G.I. Joe Comics, Animated Series/Films and Fan Films
There have been different alternative G.I. Joe worlds in the comic books, TV shows and films, I'll give a list and a short summary with links. With others I'll have to go into more detail.
G.I. Joe Marvel / IDW /Image (It's lasted for 41 years)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/sm/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwarah/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-gijoe-a-real-american-hero/
http://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=75248
https://comiconlinefree.net/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/xw61BWWiwVdfO9Uwa9d0eGP-u5YtW8LAjp2UTiGWGP69-Xwh5zkqR2sIvIgyPiI0f_y45Rs3nQrc=s1600
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero
G.I. Joe Sunbow cartoon (In episode "The MASS Device", Snake Eyes sacrifices himself to save the team and he and Scarlett touch palms while separated by a plexiglass wall, which brings Scarlett to tears. When Snake Eyes returns to headquarters alive, Scarlett runs and throws herself into his arms, overjoyed that he's alive, but that's it)
G.I. Joe DiC series (Not that much of them was shown in the DiC series, but they did work together during the episodes they appeared in)
G.I. Joe (Image / Devil's Due) (It continued from the Marvel G.I. Joe comics years later in 2001, however they ruined the whole storyline since the writers were more familiar with the cartoon and not the comic book and those two storylines couldn't be any more different. They pretty much turned it into a Soap Opera with idiotic drama and angst scenes with characters doing questionable things that had very little or no explanations to them at all. The series had its moments, such as Snake Eyes proposing to Scarlett, although no wedding was ever seen, but much of it didn't feel like the Marvel version since Hama wasn't writing it and it ended up becoming an alternative reality that ended in 2009 or 10)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/image/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/elite/
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-2001/issue-4/34
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-2005/issue-26/26
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/declassified/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/declassifieds/scarlettdeclassified.shtml
G.I. Joe: Frontline (G.I. Joe disbands after defeating Cobra, Snake Eyes and Scarlett retire and live together in Snake's cabin in the High Sierras. Scarlett states in a letter that there making room for guests, "hint, hint")
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/frontline/
https://www.yojoe.com/comics/frontline/frontline4.shtml
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-frontline/issue-4/23
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-frontline/issue-4/24
G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War (Scarlett and Snake Eyes develop a relationship throughout the G.I. Joe/Transformers series, in The Art of War, they finally come together and kiss)
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-vs-the-transformers-iii-the-art-of-war/issue-5/23
Transformers/G.I. Joe (With a 1932 timeline, Snake Eyes and Scarlett are shown to be in love with each other as Snake Eyes embraces Scarlett, but the comic was cancelled before anything else could have been written)
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/transformers-g-i-joe/issue-6/13
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/transformers-g-i-joe/issue-6/23
G.I. Joe: Reloaded (Snake Eyes is not a member of the team, he has never met Scarlett, but he's in love with her. Duke was an agent working undercover for Cobra but Scarlett kills him. The comic was cancelled before anything else could have been written)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/reloaded/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/reloaded/reloaded14.shtml
G.I. Joe: Spy Troops CGI movie (Throughout the story he has some relationship with Scarlett as he is a part of the team that goes to rescue her after she is taken hostage by Zartan, but it's not fully explored)
Valor Vs Venom CGI movie (No type of love relationship was seen between them; the film was more action and humor oriented. I can't be sure if this is true or not, but it's said that the Valor Vs Venom promotional comics clearly state that Snake Eyes and Scarlett are in a relationship)
G.I. Joe: Sigma 6 cartoon (In the season one finale, it is shown that Snake Eyes has some interest in Scarlett. He goes out of his way to save her and put her out of harm's way before moving on to complete his mission. According to the 3.5" toys, it's stated in two different battle packs that Snake Eyes and Scarlett are in some sort of relationship... but I can't be 100% sure about that)

G.I. Joe: Origins/G.I. Joe (IDW) (At first it seemed as if the series was developing Snake Eyes and Scarlett's romance as the story progressed, rather than having it established as a back-story, as the Marvel comics series did. Duke is seen in this continuity as having had some kind of past relationship with Scarlett and resents her growing feelings for Snake Eyes. Duke is pretty much the antagonistic character who unsuccessfully tries to come between them.

But Snake and Scarlett didn't have that much interaction, she became nothing more than a background character though half the series, they barely teamed-up, they hardly spend any time with each other. Some of the covers were pretty misleading when it not only came to their relationship but to the whole storyline. Issue #13 showed that Snake Eyes left Scarlett and the team... again... it was bad enough that Chuck Dixon writes G.I. Joe with action and no substances, abandoned plots elements, adults acting like preteens, and then starts writing a dumb uninteresting love triangle, as if the storyline needed another one. It came out of nowhere and it made no sense. This doesn't really say a whole lot for Scarlett as a character if she's won over this easily. They went after Snake because they thought he betrayed the team and Scarlett didn't question this at all until Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow issue #19, where Scarlett states that she believes Snake Eyes is working deep cover... somehow, she didn't come to this conclusion sooner...

Anyone who asked him if Snake Eyes and Scarlett were going to be together... Chuck said that it was eventually going to happen... but that was all a lie. He ended up putting her with someone else, someone who she had very little contact with, shared nothing in common, no chemistry, he stalked her from afar, pretty much looking her up and down, and there was no real believable buildup to it at all... this is truly fan boy fan fiction writing at its finest or lowest... what was the point of her having any type of touching scenes (small ones) with Snake Eyes throughout this entire series if it wasn't going to lead to a actual serious relationship????? The problem is that Chuck Dixon admitted he knew nothing about the property when he got the job, even when he wrote a few issues of G.I. Joe: Reloaded back in 2004 (issues #10 to #14). He didn't know the characters at all or what made G.I. Joe great or compelling.)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idworigins/origins05.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-gijoe-season-2/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw05.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw06.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw07.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw09.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw12.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw14.shtml
G.I. Joe: Snake Eyes (Continues from the non-canon G.I. Joe IDW continuity as Snake and Scarlett were shown to be getting closer... but only issue #2 and #8 showed that and just barely. One of a very few scenes they have together that does any kind of real character and relationship development between them... but there should have been far more leading up to that and more after that... but for some idiotic reason... their relationship wasn't continued at all, making what little scenes and moments they had together completely pointless. Dixon portals Snake Eyes as an uncaring cold person to everyone, including Scarlett, he barely shows any signs of concern, compassion or respect. Since issue #1, Larry Hama has always written Snake Eyes as an actually person that not only has a personality, but he's given the character depth, emotion, self-discipline and a love interest. All without the character talking or any thought bubbles, only a hand full of writers have done that with Snake Eyes and that's just sad.)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-snake-eyes/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes02.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes03.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes04.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes06.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes08.shtml
G.I. Joe: Operation H.I.S.S. (A very short CGI series that's based on the crappy 2009 film. There's only one scene in episode 6 which it's reported that Scarlett has been taken and they focus in on a close up to Snake Eyes at that moment and he goes to rescue her in episode 7... but that's it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5lauB1uvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERnpgelfcmw
G.I. Joe: Renegades cartoon (The only thing I can really say about these two, which isn't much at all, is what their bios stated, "Her special link to Snake Eyes, who trained her in Ninjitsu, comes in handy too."
"Trained by the ace Arashikage clan, this masked mercenary used to show up just for special missions whenever Scarlett called. She can "translate" what he's thinking.")
G1JOE2012 (This short CGI film made by NGSMOOV, also called G.I. Joe/Transformers crossover. It stars Duke, Snake Eyes, Scarlett and a few of the Transformers. At 2:10, you can clearly see that Snake Eyes and Scarlett have a romantic relationship as they're leading their foreheads against each other, Scarlett puts her hand on the side of his face and she tells him, "Be careful". It's far better than any other G.I. Joe cartoon, CGI or the live action films)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl9LMaOGAw
The Transformers vs. G.I. Joe (Somewhat based on the both the 80s Sunbow G.I. Joe and Transformers animated series, but its utterly bat shoot insane and I mean that in a good way, but do not expect a simple story. Snake-Eyes and Scarlett have feelings for each for throughout the series and end up together at the end)
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-0/13
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-0/17
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-5/19
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-12/10
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-13/33
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-13/39
http://fanholespodcast.blogspot.com/2017/04/

There are other titles, but I haven't read them and some are not worth reading.
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/


Renegades was Terrible
They wasted their time on a crappy A-Team plot, making the bad guys be capitalist, characters who look and act like teenagers, liquid monsters, someone (who's really a white guy) having liquid superpowers, others who are just completely unrecognizable, shoving idiotic jokes, arguments and one-liners down everyone's throat. G.I. Joe is supposed to be about the U.S. armed forces (Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine) that became a Special Counter-Terrorist Unit Delta that fights Cobra around the globe in the sea, air and land... not a small group of door-to-door problem solvers on the run and acting like "The Odd Couple" with bickering moments going on where they always lose any evidence that would clear them. I'm not disappointed that it ended, good riddance!

The fact that in the last episode, the original voice actor Michael Bell as Duke from the Sunbow series recounts his terrible dream where everyone was drawn horribly... that doesn't say a whole lot of what some of the writers, Hasbro, or what The Hub thought of their own show.


Hints of Snake Eyes/Scarlett in Renegades but nothing more
When it came to Snake Eyes/Scarlett hints like what they've done and what the characters said about them, here's a list.
In episode Dreadnoks Rising, Duke says, "You put a lot of faith into that mystery man." and Scarlett replies, "He's earned it."

In episode Rage, Tunnel Rat says to Snake Eyes "Hey, your lady is in trouble, I'm guessing you know how to find her right?"

In episode Return of the Arashikage Part 1, Jinx says to Scarlett, "You know you're not like his other students. I've seen how he treats you… how he cares." Scarlett is shocked to hear that and says, "Nah, I'm just high maintenance, that's all."

In episode Fire Fight, when Scarlett goes with Snake Eyes on a chopper motorcycle, Tunnel Rat says, "Ah, what can you do? Chicks dig the strong totally silent type." When Scarlett is hanging off a mountain lift, Baroness says to Snake Eyes, "Surrender Ninja, or your girlfriend flies away!"

In episode Knockoffs, Roadblock says, "You see, now that's what I'm talking about. Snake Eyes and Scarlett, they share bond, a connection." Zartan says to Scarlett, "Ninja's got guts, huh, too bad I have to splatter him all over the asphalt." Scarlett replies, "My money is on Snake Eyes." After Snake Eyes knocks out Zartan, Duke wants to know how he knew it was him, Snake Eyes puts his right fist on his chest and Scarlett says, "Heard the differences in your heartbeats." Roadblock says, "Now that’s really knowing someone."

In episode White Out, Storm Shadow shouts out to Snake Eyes, "and your woman will be the first to fall!"

At the end of episode The Anaconda Strain, Scarlett is remembering her father (who was deceased as far as she knew), Snake Eyes comforts her by putting his hand on her shoulder and she puts her hand on his.

In Cutting Edge, an episode that just stared Snake Eyes, Scarlett and Jinx working together.

Episode Revelations, Part 1 reveals that Snake Eyes knew Scarlett's father and promised him to look after her. When they came under attack from Cobra, Snake Eyes face was burned when Mr. O'Hara's lab exploded. Scarlett says, "All that time we spent together, you should have found a way to tell me the truth." Later on Scarlett says, "I realize you feel responsible for what happened to him and it's why you didn't tell me, but nobody could make Patrick O'Hara do anything. You couldn't make him leave the job unfinished and I couldn't make him be a better father. I don't think I really understood that until now, thank you for helping him." She gently his face and Snake Eyes then holds her hand.

In Episode Revelations, Part 2, when Snake Eyes is being forced inside in the MASS device, Mindbender says to Scarlett, "Oh, if only I had the right frequency, you wouldn't have to watch your boyfriend get turned inside out." When it works, she shouts, "Snake Eyes!"

In an interview there was a question asked about the relationships
Q17 — "Are there going to be any ongoing relationships between either Flint and Lady Jaye or Scarlett and Snake Eyes?" – CAPT. GRID-IRON
Henry Gilroy: "Yes and yes. These relationships will be evolving as the series progresses."
https://generalsjoesreborn.com/2011/01/exclusive-interview-with-the-writing-team-of-g-i-joe-renegades/

But unfortunately, none of that meant either one of them had deep feelings of love for each other since there was no actual answer to that. There was no evolving or development between them, he saves her life but he would do that for anyone, he just comforts her with a hand on her shoulder in The Anaconda Strain and the conclusion she came to in Revelations, Part 1 was all on her own, not because of Snake Eyes, she just thanked him for helping her father (where was his hug?), but it wasn't a memorable scene and it was very much rushed due to the fact that the show ended very quickly. All this "girlfriend", "boyfriend", "your woman", "they have a bond" was just the assumption from other characters, not from Snake or Scarlett themselves, whatever history they had together wasn't seen, it's barely mentioned, and nothing was shown or stated that went beyond a close friendship or a working relationship. Anything else is just desperate fans exaggerating scenes and going off into their own speculation head canon.

The writers had plenty of opportunities to evolve their relationship in an actual meaningful way from them (not from others) or to already have them as a couple, like in the comic book... but like every other official animated, CGI and the live action versions... they blew it, because it didn't get a second season. The writers can say whatever they want, but they can change their minds pretty quickly and for no reason whatsoever. When you have different writers for just about every single episode, none of them seem to be on the same page or knows what happened in a previous episode... and that happen with episode 24. The fact that Scarlett let her guard down, willing open herself up to someone she barely knew in episode Going Underground, when compared to someone she's supposed to have known longer, some sort of so-called bound with and doesn't try to clear anything up with him… that doesn't say much for her so-called relationship with Snake Eyes. Larry Hama never resorted to anything like that with them and their relationship in the canon comics has been far better than coming up with a crappy teen soap opera plot. But that whole scene at the end of episode 24 was forgotten and it wasn't even brought up in the next episode... so one has to ask... what was the point of that????

We'll never know since there wasn't a second season.
https://generalsjoesreborn.com/2012/01/g-i-joe-renegades-writer-henry-gilroy-reveals-tidbits-about-the-animated-series/

According to the commentary from episode Return of the Arashikage, director Kevin Altieri stated the following, "And another thing that I really liked about this episode is it's the first time, I think, that I just go, 'Snake Eyes, Scarlett, love each other. They're in love. They are an item. There's no questioning it from this episode on."
https://78.media.tumblr.com/145d3362d05692e9dba2f0aebe26f2e0/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo2_500.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/c3deda520ec7c6ed2d4dce835e36e462/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo1_500.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ae2c0dfbf94e23cd76f87de4da7fed8a/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo3_500.gif

Maybe someone should have told director Scooter Tidwell and "writer" (I use that term loosely) Eric Karten that before episode 24... because he's ignoring the fact that Scarlett was surprised and dismissed what Jinx said that he cared for her, Snake Eyes was really just saving her life, like I said he would do that for anyone, holding her hand is just the close friendship they have. How did they go from her being shocked and dismissing what Jinx said to suddenly loving each other without question within that timeframe???? She also questioned if he killed his own master (based on what, he was just a kid?) ...if there's no question that there in love, then shouldn't she have believed that it wasn't true? I still stand by what I said, I also don't think these guys had a clue of what basic romance writing is, how two people in love would act. I'm not trying to sound like an absolute expert in this, but I just can't see what he's talking about in that episode and scene, he's doesn't go into details on that at all. Is he trying to make excuses for Henry Gilroy lying his @$$ off?

Gilroy also claims that the so-called reason for the cancellation of the show was because its second season shared similarities with the film, The Rise of Cobra (there were no similarities between them) and that there would have been too many toy lines… who the hell is dumb enough to believe such crap???
https://news.hisstank.com/2023/01/27/henry-gilroy-explains-why-g-i-joe-renegades-was-cancelled-80100

It looks like they hired some really cheap leftist liberal directors and writers for the series, which would explain why the series it did so poorly with its terrible storylines and characterizations. This is how you can tell, without question, that they're in love.
https://i.imgur.com/y926hFD.jpg

Not what happen in Return of the Arashikage... it doesn't surprise me that the fans can do a better job than the so-called professionals.


80s Cartoon... meh...
When it comes to the Sunbow series, Snake Eyes and Scarlett were of course not an item, again I see fans exaggerating that scene where they put their hands up against the glass and the hug between them, as if that was supposed to be some sort of reference to their relationship from the comics. Two episodes to note is The MASS Device, a character named Selina and Duke kissed each other right in front of Scarlett and she didn't have a problem with it at all. The other is Cobra Claws Are Coming to Town where Cover Girl kissed Duke at the end of the episode. Also, for a series that's called a "classic", it only lasted for 2 seasons since it was canceled and most only lasted that long. Renegades was so bad, it only got one.
Sunbow (canceled after 2 seasons)
G.I. Joe DiG (canceled after 2 seasons)
Extreme (canceled after 2 seasons)
Sigma 6 (canceled after 2 seasons)
Renegades (canceled after 1 season)


Extra Joe characters created just to sell Toys
Larry Hama has stated in interviews that Hasbro/Sunbow had issues with Hawk's code name being too "politically charged" and thought that Snake Eyes' inability to speak made it difficult for the animators to portray his romance with Scarlett in what was essentially a 30 min cartoon made to sell toys... so they created Duke because they needed a new action figure and it made easier for the cartoon writers... but he hardly appeared in the comics at first since Hama never created him. In fact, he didn't even exist in the comics until issue #22 in 1984 because Hawk was the first and real team leader. Larry Hama was forced to put him in the comics, Duke is nothing more than a boring bland character that adds nothing to the team or to a storyline.

In fact, actor Channing Tatum stated that he wanted to play Snake Eyes, not Duke, and when it comes to how he feels about the film he said, "I fracking hate that movie."
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/channing-tatum-i-f--king-hate-gi-joe-was-pushed-into-it-2015236

"The main problem I had was that the folks at Hasbro and the writers on the cartoon show just treated Duke as if he was interchangeable with Hawk. This is why Duke was never really developed as a character in the comic. There was also a design problem in that he looked too similar to Hawk."
--Larry Hama
http://joeguide.com/hama/email.shtml

Marvel comics writer Jim Shooter stated in a blog, "As far as I know, with regard to G.I. JOE and TRANSFORMERS Sunbow never created or contributed anything."
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/26/dining-with-didio-corruption-at-marvel-and-creating-transformers-with-jim-shooter/


Incompetent Writers... again
Flint and Lady Jaye ending up becoming more focused on like in episode Eau De Cobra where they attended a social function as a couple. Scarlett was fazed out of the show altogether by Season 2 in favor of Flint/Lady Jaye. Hama was even asked to break up Snake Eyes/Scarlett but he and Marvel wouldn't budge on it, and since Sunbow had no back story for her and Duke, they dropped her for Lady Jaye. That alone proves that this whole D/S thing was based on nothing but laziness, a lack of writing ability and no real effort or imagination. It was only done for their own convenience since there was no real reason given for why they would be together in the first place.


G.I. Joe films... meh...
When it comes to that piece of shoot film......... oh god... where do I start... on a pre-release interview, Stephen Sommers actually stated that it was "too hard" to show a romantic relationship where one party is mute and you can't see their eyes. I wonder if he actually bothered to watch his own movie. Some of the interactions between Snake Eyes and Scarlett were actually far more caring and intimate than any high school pick up lines Wayans could spew out at her. The whole concept of a Snake Eyes/Scarlett relationship being "too hard" just says that Sommers was either too lazy to actually bother, or simply lacked the ability.

He also said that in his opinion, if you nailed down the character of Snake Eyes, you nailed down a G.I. Joe movie......... even if that is the case, Sommers sadly failed to nail down Snake Eyes or anything in the film. He made him into nothing but a masked combat machine... just like what the Sunbow series, the DiC series and what Resolute did. He could have just as easily have been another nano viper or a robot. What makes Snake Eyes such a compelling character is his humanity and the simple fact it; Scarlett is a huge part of that. He has lost everything but her, his feelings towards her and his sense of duty and honor keeps him going. If you take Scarlett out of that equation, Snake Eyes loses a great deal of what makes him a fan favorite.

Why did they even bother with Ripcord in the movie??? For one thing he wasn't black or part of the Joe team when it was first formed.
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/characters/ripcord.html
http://www.yojoe.com/action/84/ripcord.shtml
They revamped a C list character that really had no strong presence in either the comic or the cartoon in order to shoehorn slapstick "comic relief" down our throats. From what I saw, the character served absolutely no purpose in the film, other than being annoying and bombarding us with sophomoric attempts at comedy.

I fail to see why they just don't have Snake Eyes using sign language or military hand singles. In the film Scarlett and Ripcord are basically like two flirty teenagers, whereas with Snake Eyes and Scarlett, it's something much deeper than just words, and that's why people like it so much.

Many times, I've heard that the people at Sunbow and Sommers say that they didn't know how to write for a mute character... what? Really? Well Larry Hama only did it for a decade, with an entire issue or two completely silent, hell Marvel Comics in 2002 or 03 also did that......... want to know why? What's the secret?? It's called having a fracking imagination!


Good animation... shootty Writing
When it comes to Resolute... oh god... writer Warren Ellis admitted that he knew nothing about the comics when he wrote it, when he did read it, he said that he didn't care for it... and it showed. There was no character depth, everybody was a cardboard cutout, the back-stories were non-existent, too many plot holes, and out of cannon performances but that gets completely glossed over simply because of the "look" of the animation and the Matrix style action. Duke slams Snake Eyes in front of everyone, and slapped down Scarlett's self-esteem a peg or two by telling her he didn't care what her choice was. That doesn't say a lot for Scarlett in Resolute or for Ellis's writing. The only reason why it’s liked is because of its animation and action junkies will take anything if it's got gun fire and explosions.


D/S Trolls
From time to time, Snake Eyes/Scarlett fans will have to put up with D/S fans who just act like trolls. Stating all kinds of nonsense about them, even about the canon title, but as always, they can't prove a thing and they don't explain why. This is one of main reasons why I put a lot of links in this picture and others, so it's not just me saying this, I'm providing reliable sources to backup what I'm saying, using common sense and explaining my reasons.


A Solid Couple Like No Other
Snake Eyes/Scarlett are a very unique pairing in the canon title, unlike so many other comic couples, they have never flirted with others, they've never cheated on each other, they've never wondered about being with other people, they've never questioned their relationship, and they've never broken up. There love is as solid as it gets in the world of comic books. Larry Hama writes his characters as mature adults. Now this doesn't mean I think Hama's writing is perfect on every level, far from it, there's a lot to criticize. But sadly, most of the fans completely miss this and treat them as most comic book pairings, which are nothing more soap opera disasters.

The main canon G.I. Joe series are all we real SE/S fans have... and sadly it will always be like that. Never will we be able to see such moments they had in the comic books, it will never be seen or portrayed in animation form or in live action... it's just not going to happen...

Not from the so-called professional filmmakers and writers that is. Which bring me back to the short CGI film called G1JOE2012, it took a particular group of people to actually have a small love scene between them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl9LMaOGAw

Scenes like that is all I'm asking for when it comes to them in films and in a mini or ongoing animated series. I'm not asking for an entire film or a series to be just about them with romance scenes taking up everything. Just a few scenes with lines, dialog (from Scarlett) and a kiss scene that shows without a doubt that they are a couple and are deeply in love with each other. Nothing and no one will ever have them questioning that and nothing will ever come between and drive them apart. I fail to see what's so hard about that... I really do...">https://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/44000000/G-I-Joe-108-snake-eyes-gi-joe-44062209-444-503.jpg[/utl]

The tattoo on his right arm is of course the Arashikage Clan symbol.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/scale_small/0/2532/1200593-tumblr_ks4whgumin1qa9armo1_500.jpg


Comics
Cobra had captured Scarlett and Snake Eyes goes to rescue her from Destro's Cobra stronghold in an issue with no words or dialog of any kind in Issue #21.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-21

3 years later, its Snake Eyes whose been captured by Cobra but both Scarlett and Storm Shadow go to rescue him in anther silent issue in G.I. Joe Yearbook issue #3.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-yearbook/issue-3

Snake Eyes, Scarlett and the Blind Master go on a rescue mission to save Stalker, Snow Job and Quick Kick in issues #63-67.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-63
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-64/18
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-66/17
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-67/10

At one point Snake wanted to get his face repaired, Scarlett said that he didn't have to, but he wanted to be able to hold her hand and walk down the street and feel the sun shining down on his own face and not on a rubber face mask in issue #93.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/9
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/10
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-93/11

While trying to protect Snake-Eyes while he was under anesthesia due to his face was healing, she wanted to tell him that she loved him one more time. Scarlett was then shot in the head by the Baroness in G.I. Joe #94.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-94/19

Snake Eyes has only spoke once since the crash, Scarlett was in a coma, and he shouted her name in G.I. Joe #102.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-102/23
When she wakes up, she shouts, "Where am I? …Where's Snake Eyes?" in issues #103-104.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-103/24
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-104
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-104/11
They're reunited in issue #108
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-108/9

It's stated in issue #159 (2010) when it's learned that Zartan disguised himself as Snake Eyes, Duke says, "Snake Eyes would never leave Scarlett in a tight situation. I just verified it by getting past his defenses to slug him out. No way I could do that to the real Snakester."
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-159/6
When he's skinned by a bullet, Scarlett shouts his name "SNAKE EYES!" Storm Shadow gets her out of there, but she protests, "I'm not leaving Snake Eyes!" "NOOOOOO!"
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-159/25

The first page on issue #192 states
After the events of the past few months, Scarlett and Snake Eyes take a much-deserved vacation...
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-192
Issue #193 states
While Snake Eyes and Scarlett get some well-deserved rest in the mountains.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-193

When Mindbender makes a clone of Snake-Eyes, with all the memories and skills of the original, the first thing on his mind is Scarlett. When Scarlett learns that the original Snake-Eyes has been brough back, she wants to get down there instantly. When they met, Snake-Eyes can now talk, since he says her name, and they hug in issue #300.
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/3
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/6
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/9
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/24
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-300/25

The two spend some time at their cabin, Timber II brings Snake-Eyes a new cub to raise. During the night, lying in bed, Snake-Eyes wants to tell Scarlett something, but she stops him and the two embrace in issue #302.
"Scarlett, I want to tell…"
"Not… now."
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/20
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/21
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero/issue-302/22

Unfortunately, he hasn't done much else with them in the canon storyline, he's missed a lot of opportunities, and there's really nothing else I can list. Now I'm not asking for every issue to be about them, although I wouldn't mind a G.I. Joe title that just started them. It does show that they're not needy, they don't always have to be near each other and they're not worried 24/7 when one is off on a solo mission, they both have absolute confidences in each other. But there needs to be more loving scenes between them.


Non-Canon and Incompetent Writers
When G.I. Joe was under Image Comics and Devil's Due, he did do a few more romantic scenes with them... but that storyline became non-canon and when that happens, they pretty much become meaningless. There have been a few other writers who have written very touching scenes (small ones) with them in alternate realities such as Brandon Jerwa, Mark Powers, Tim Seeley, Mike O'Sullivan, John Ney Reiber, John Barber and Tom Scioli.

As for the rest... others have not even tried or have failed completely and that would include other G.I. Joe titles, all the animation series and films. That list of lazy writers who are nothing but hacks would include the people at Sunbow, Stephen Sommers, Rhett Reese, Paul Wernick, Warren Ellis, Josh Blaylock, Andy Schmidt, Henry Gilroy, Eric Karten, Chuck Dixon, Aubrey Sitterson and Paul Allor.


G.I. Joe Comics, Animated Series/Films and Fan Films
There have been different alternative G.I. Joe worlds in the comic books, TV shows and films, I'll give a list and a short summary with links. With others I'll have to go into more detail.
G.I. Joe Marvel / IDW /Image (It's lasted for 41 years)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/sm/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwarah/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-gijoe-a-real-american-hero/
http://forums.yojoe.com/showthread.php?t=75248
https://comiconlinefree.net/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/xw61BWWiwVdfO9Uwa9d0eGP-u5YtW8LAjp2UTiGWGP69-Xwh5zkqR2sIvIgyPiI0f_y45Rs3nQrc=s1600
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-a-real-american-hero
G.I. Joe Sunbow cartoon (In episode "The MASS Device", Snake Eyes sacrifices himself to save the team and he and Scarlett touch palms while separated by a plexiglass wall, which brings Scarlett to tears. When Snake Eyes returns to headquarters alive, Scarlett runs and throws herself into his arms, overjoyed that he's alive, but that's it)
G.I. Joe DiC series (Not that much of them was shown in the DiC series, but they did work together during the episodes they appeared in)
G.I. Joe (Image / Devil's Due) (It continued from the Marvel G.I. Joe comics years later in 2001, however they ruined the whole storyline since the writers were more familiar with the cartoon and not the comic book and those two storylines couldn't be any more different. They pretty much turned it into a Soap Opera with idiotic drama and angst scenes with characters doing questionable things that had very little or no explanations to them at all. The series had its moments, such as Snake Eyes proposing to Scarlett, although no wedding was ever seen, but much of it didn't feel like the Marvel version since Hama wasn't writing it and it ended up becoming an alternative reality that ended in 2009 or 10)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/image/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/elite/
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-2001/issue-4/34
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-2005/issue-26/26
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/declassified/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/declassifieds/scarlettdeclassified.shtml
G.I. Joe: Frontline (G.I. Joe disbands after defeating Cobra, Snake Eyes and Scarlett retire and live together in Snake's cabin in the High Sierras. Scarlett states in a letter that there making room for guests, "hint, hint")
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/frontline/
https://www.yojoe.com/comics/frontline/frontline4.shtml
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-frontline/issue-4/23
https://xoxocomic.com/comic/g-i-joe-frontline/issue-4/24
G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War (Scarlett and Snake Eyes develop a relationship throughout the G.I. Joe/Transformers series, in The Art of War, they finally come together and kiss)
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/g-i-joe-vs-the-transformers-iii-the-art-of-war/issue-5/179688/23
Transformers/G.I. Joe (With a 1932 timeline, Snake Eyes and Scarlett are shown to be in love with each other as Snake Eyes embraces Scarlett, but the comic was cancelled before anything else could have been written)
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/transformers-g-i-joe/issue-6/235509/13
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/transformers-g-i-joe/issue-6/235509/23
G.I. Joe: Reloaded (Snake Eyes is not a member of the team, he has never met Scarlett, but he's in love with her. Duke was an agent working undercover for Cobra but Scarlett kills him. The comic was cancelled before anything else could have been written)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/reloaded/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/reloaded/reloaded14.shtml
G.I. Joe: Spy Troops CGI movie (Throughout the story he has some relationship with Scarlett as he is a part of the team that goes to rescue her after she is taken hostage by Zartan, but it's not fully explored)
Valor Vs Venom CGI movie (No type of love relationship was seen between them; the film was more action and humor oriented. I can't be sure if this is true or not, but it's said that the Valor Vs Venom promotional comics clearly state that Snake Eyes and Scarlett are in a relationship)
G.I. Joe: Sigma 6 cartoon (In the season one finale, it is shown that Snake Eyes has some interest in Scarlett. He goes out of his way to save her and put her out of harm's way before moving on to complete his mission. According to the 3.5" toys, it's stated in two different battle packs that Snake Eyes and Scarlett are in some sort of relationship... but I can't be 100% sure about that)

G.I. Joe: Origins/G.I. Joe (IDW) (At first it seemed as if the series was developing Snake Eyes and Scarlett's romance as the story progressed, rather than having it established as a back-story, as the Marvel comics series did. Duke is seen in this continuity as having had some kind of past relationship with Scarlett and resents her growing feelings for Snake Eyes. Duke is pretty much the antagonistic character who unsuccessfully tries to come between them.

But Snake and Scarlett didn't have that much interaction, she became nothing more than a background character though half the series, they barely teamed-up, they hardly spend any time with each other. Some of the covers were pretty misleading when it not only came to their relationship but to the whole storyline. Issue #13 showed that Snake Eyes left Scarlett and the team... again... it was bad enough that Chuck Dixon writes G.I. Joe with action and no substances, abandoned plots elements, adults acting like preteens, and then starts writing a dumb uninteresting love triangle, as if the storyline needed another one. It came out of nowhere and it made no sense. This doesn't really say a whole lot for Scarlett as a character if she's won over this easily. They went after Snake because they thought he betrayed the team and Scarlett didn't question this at all until Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow issue #19, where Scarlett states that she believes Snake Eyes is working deep cover... somehow, she didn't come to this conclusion sooner...

Anyone who asked him if Snake Eyes and Scarlett were going to be together... Chuck said that it was eventually going to happen... but that was all a lie. He ended up putting her with someone else, someone who she had very little contact with, shared nothing in common, no chemistry, he stalked her from afar, pretty much looking her up and down, and there was no real believable buildup to it at all... this is truly fan boy fan fiction writing at its finest or lowest... what was the point of her having any type of touching scenes (small ones) with Snake Eyes throughout this entire series if it wasn't going to lead to a actual serious relationship????? The problem is that Chuck Dixon admitted he knew nothing about the property when he got the job, even when he wrote a few issues of G.I. Joe: Reloaded back in 2004 (issues #10 to #14). He didn't know the characters at all or what made G.I. Joe great or compelling.)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idworigins/origins05.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-gijoe-season-2/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw05.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw06.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw07.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw09.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw12.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw/idw14.shtml
G.I. Joe: Snake Eyes (Continues from the non-canon G.I. Joe IDW continuity as Snake and Scarlett were shown to be getting closer... but only issue #2 and #8 showed that and just barely. One of a very few scenes they have together that does any kind of real character and relationship development between them... but there should have been far more leading up to that and more after that... but for some idiotic reason... their relationship wasn't continued at all, making what little scenes and moments they had together completely pointless. Dixon portals Snake Eyes as an uncaring cold person to everyone, including Scarlett, he barely shows any signs of concern, compassion or respect. Since issue #1, Larry Hama has always written Snake Eyes as an actually person that not only has a personality, but he's given the character depth, emotion, self-discipline and a love interest. All without the character talking or any thought bubbles, only a hand full of writers have done that with Snake Eyes and that's just sad.)
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idw-snake-eyes/
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes02.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes03.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes04.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes06.shtml
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/idwsnakeeyes/snakeeyes08.shtml
G.I. Joe: Operation H.I.S.S. (A very short CGI series that's based on the crappy 2009 film. There's only one scene in episode 6 which it's reported that Scarlett has been taken and they focus in on a close up to Snake Eyes at that moment and he goes to rescue her in episode 7... but that's it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok5lauB1uvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERnpgelfcmw
G.I. Joe: Renegades cartoon (The only thing I can really say about these two, which isn't much at all, is what their bios stated, "Her special link to Snake Eyes, who trained her in Ninjitsu, comes in handy too."
"Trained by the ace Arashikage clan, this masked mercenary used to show up just for special missions whenever Scarlett called. She can "translate" what he's thinking.")
G1JOE2012 (This short CGI film made by NGSMOOV, also called G.I. Joe/Transformers crossover. It stars Duke, Snake Eyes, Scarlett and a few of the Transformers. At 2:10, you can clearly see that Snake Eyes and Scarlett have a romantic relationship as they're leading their foreheads against each other, Scarlett puts her hand on the side of his face and she tells him, "Be careful". It's far better than any other G.I. Joe cartoon, CGI or the live action films)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl9LMaOGAw
The Transformers vs. G.I. Joe (Somewhat based on the both the 80s Sunbow G.I. Joe and Transformers animated series, but its utterly bat shoot insane and I mean that in a good way, but do not expect a simple story. Snake-Eyes and Scarlett have feelings for each for throughout the series and end up together at the end)
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-0/97588/13
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-0/97588/17
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-5/97578/19
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-12/97585/10
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-13/97586/33
https://xoxocomics.net/comic/the-transformers-vs-gi-joe/issue-13/97586/39
http://fanholespodcast.blogspot.com/2017/04/

There are other titles, but I haven't read them and some are not worth reading.
http://www.yojoe.com/comics/


Renegades was Terrible
They wasted their time on a crappy A-Team plot, making the bad guys be capitalist, characters who look and act like teenagers, liquid monsters, someone (who's really a white guy) having liquid superpowers, others who are just completely unrecognizable, shoving idiotic jokes, arguments and one-liners down everyone's throat. G.I. Joe is supposed to be about the U.S. armed forces (Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine) that became a Special Counter-Terrorist Unit Delta that fights Cobra around the globe in the sea, air and land... not a small group of door-to-door problem solvers on the run and acting like "The Odd Couple" with bickering moments going on where they always lose any evidence that would clear them. I'm not disappointed that it ended, good riddance!

The fact that in the last episode, the original voice actor Michael Bell as Duke from the Sunbow series recounts his terrible dream where everyone was drawn horribly... that doesn't say a whole lot of what some of the writers, Hasbro, or what The Hub thought of their own show.


Hints of Snake Eyes/Scarlett in Renegades but nothing more
When it came to Snake Eyes/Scarlett hints like what they've done and what the characters said about them, here's a list.
In episode Dreadnoks Rising, Duke says, "You put a lot of faith into that mystery man." and Scarlett replies, "He's earned it."

In episode Rage, Tunnel Rat says to Snake Eyes "Hey, your lady is in trouble, I'm guessing you know how to find her right?"

In episode Return of the Arashikage Part 1, Jinx says to Scarlett, "You know you're not like his other students. I've seen how he treats you… how he cares." Scarlett is shocked to hear that and says, "Nah, I'm just high maintenance, that's all."

In episode Fire Fight, when Scarlett goes with Snake Eyes on a chopper motorcycle, Tunnel Rat says, "Ah, what can you do? Chicks dig the strong totally silent type." When Scarlett is hanging off a mountain lift, Baroness says to Snake Eyes, "Surrender Ninja, or your girlfriend flies away!"

In episode Knockoffs, Roadblock says, "You see, now that's what I'm talking about. Snake Eyes and Scarlett, they share bond, a connection." Zartan says to Scarlett, "Ninja's got guts, huh, too bad I have to splatter him all over the asphalt." Scarlett replies, "My money is on Snake Eyes." After Snake Eyes knocks out Zartan, Duke wants to know how he knew it was him, Snake Eyes puts his right fist on his chest and Scarlett says, "Heard the differences in your heartbeats." Roadblock says, "Now that’s really knowing someone."

In episode White Out, Storm Shadow shouts out to Snake Eyes, "and your woman will be the first to fall!"

At the end of episode The Anaconda Strain, Scarlett is remembering her father (who was deceased as far as she knew), Snake Eyes comforts her by putting his hand on her shoulder and she puts her hand on his.

In Cutting Edge, an episode that just stared Snake Eyes, Scarlett and Jinx working together.

Episode Revelations, Part 1 reveals that Snake Eyes knew Scarlett's father and promised him to look after her. When they came under attack from Cobra, Snake Eyes face was burned when Mr. O'Hara's lab exploded. Scarlett says, "All that time we spent together, you should have found a way to tell me the truth." Later on Scarlett says, "I realize you feel responsible for what happened to him and it's why you didn't tell me, but nobody could make Patrick O'Hara do anything. You couldn't make him leave the job unfinished and I couldn't make him be a better father. I don't think I really understood that until now, thank you for helping him." She gently his face and Snake Eyes then holds her hand.

In Episode Revelations, Part 2, when Snake Eyes is being forced inside in the MASS device, Mindbender says to Scarlett, "Oh, if only I had the right frequency, you wouldn't have to watch your boyfriend get turned inside out." When it works, she shouts, "Snake Eyes!"

In an interview there was a question asked about the relationships
Q17 — "Are there going to be any ongoing relationships between either Flint and Lady Jaye or Scarlett and Snake Eyes?" – CAPT. GRID-IRON
Henry Gilroy: "Yes and yes. These relationships will be evolving as the series progresses."
http://generalsjoes.com/2011/01/21/exclusive-interview-with-the-writing-team-of-g-i-joe-renegades/#more-10242

But unfortunately, none of that meant either one of them had deep feelings of love for each other since there was no actual answer to that. There was no evolving or development between them, he saves her life but he would do that for anyone, he just comforts her with a hand on her shoulder in The Anaconda Strain and the conclusion she came to in Revelations, Part 1 was all on her own, not because of Snake Eyes, she just thanked him for helping her father (where was his hug?), but it wasn't a memorable scene and it was very much rushed due to the fact that the show ended very quickly. All this "girlfriend", "boyfriend", "your woman", "they have a bond" was just the assumption from other characters, not from Snake or Scarlett themselves, whatever history they had together wasn't seen, it's barely mentioned, and nothing was shown or stated that went beyond a close friendship or a working relationship. Anything else is just desperate fans exaggerating scenes and going off into their own speculation head canon.

The writers had plenty of opportunities to evolve their relationship in an actual meaningful way from them (not from others) or to already have them as a couple, like in the comic book... but like every other official animated, CGI and the live action versions... they blew it, because it didn't get a second season. The writers can say whatever they want, but they can change their minds pretty quickly and for no reason whatsoever. When you have different writers for just about every single episode, none of them seem to be on the same page or knows what happened in a previous episode... and that happen with episode 24. The fact that Scarlett let her guard down, willing open herself up to someone she barely knew in episode Going Underground, when compared to someone she's supposed to have known longer, some sort of so-called bound with and doesn't try to clear anything up with him… that doesn't say much for her so-called relationship with Snake-Eyes. Larry Hama never resorted to anything like that with them and their relationship in the canon comics has been far better than coming up with a crappy teen soap opera plot. But that whole scene at the end of episode 24 was forgotten and it wasn't even brought up in the next episode... so one has to ask... what was the point of that????

We'll never know since there wasn't a second season.
https://generalsjoesreborn.com/2012/01/g-i-joe-renegades-writer-henry-gilroy-reveals-tidbits-about-the-animated-series/

According to the commentary from episode Return of the Arashikage, director Kevin Altieri stated the following, "And another thing that I really liked about this episode is it's the first time, I think, that I just go, 'Snake Eyes, Scarlett, love each other. They're in love. They are an item. There's no questioning it from this episode on."
https://78.media.tumblr.com/145d3362d05692e9dba2f0aebe26f2e0/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo2_500.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/c3deda520ec7c6ed2d4dce835e36e462/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo1_500.gif
https://78.media.tumblr.com/ae2c0dfbf94e23cd76f87de4da7fed8a/tumblr_nktzfe3ZJR1qky6jxo3_500.gif

Maybe someone should have told director Scooter Tidwell and "writer" (I use that term loosely) Eric Karten that before episode 24... because he's ignoring the fact that Scarlett was surprised and dismissed what Jinx said that he cared for her, Snake Eyes was really just saving her life, like I said he would do that for anyone, holding her hand is just the close friendship they have. How did they go from her being shocked and dismissing what Jinx said to suddenly loving each other without question within that timeframe???? She also questioned if he killed his own master (based on what, he was just a kid?) ...if there's no question that there in love, then shouldn't she have believed that it wasn't true? I still stand by what I said, I also don't think these guys had a clue of what basic romance writing is, how two people in love would act. I'm not trying to sound like an absolute expert in this, but I just can't see what he's talking about in that episode and scene, he's doesn't go into details on that at all. Is he trying to make excuses for Henry Gilroy lying his @$$ off?

Gilroy also claims that the so-called reason for the cancellation of the show was because its second season shared similarities with the film, The Rise of Cobra (there were no similarities between them) and that there would have been too many toy lines… who the hell is dumb enough to believe such crap???
https://news.hisstank.com/2023/01/27/henry-gilroy-explains-why-g-i-joe-renegades-was-cancelled-80100

It looks like they hired some really cheap leftist liberal directors and writers for the series, which would explain why the series it did so poorly with its terrible storylines and characterizations. This is how you can tell, without question, that they're in love.
https://i.imgur.com/y926hFD.jpg

Not what happen in Return of the Arashikage... it doesn't surprise me that the fans can do a better job than the so-called professionals.


80s Cartoon... meh...
When it comes to the Sunbow series, Snake Eyes and Scarlett were of course not an item, again I see fans exaggerating that scene where they put their hands up against the glass and the hug between them, as if that was supposed to be some sort of reference to their relationship from the comics. Two episodes to note is The MASS Device, a character named Selina and Duke kissed each other right in front of Scarlett and she didn't have a problem with it at all. The other is Cobra Claws Are Coming to Town where Cover Girl kissed Duke at the end of the episode. Also, for a series that's called a "classic", it only lasted for 2 seasons since it was canceled and most only lasted that long. Renegades was so bad, it only got one.
Sunbow (canceled after 2 seasons)
G.I. Joe DiG (canceled after 2 seasons)
Extreme (canceled after 2 seasons)
Sigma 6 (canceled after 2 seasons)
Renegades (canceled after 1 season)


Extra Joe characters created just to sell Toys
Larry Hama has stated in interviews that Hasbro/Sunbow had issues with Hawk's code name being too "politically charged" and thought that Snake Eyes' inability to speak made it difficult for the animators to portray his romance with Scarlett in what was essentially a 30 min cartoon made to sell toys... so they created Duke because they needed a new action figure and it made easier for the cartoon writers... but he hardly appeared in the comics at first since Hama never created him. In fact, he didn't even exist in the comics until issue #22 in 1984 because Hawk was the first and real team leader. Larry Hama was forced to put him in the comics, Duke is nothing more than a boring bland character that adds nothing to the team or to a storyline.

In fact, actor Channing Tatum stated that he wanted to play Snake Eyes, not Duke, and when it comes to how he feels about the film he said, "I fracking hate that movie."
http://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/channing-tatum-i-f--king-hate-gi-joe-was-pushed-into-it-2015236

"The main problem I had was that the folks at Hasbro and the writers on the cartoon show just treated Duke as if he was interchangeable with Hawk. This is why Duke was never really developed as a character in the comic. There was also a design problem in that he looked too similar to Hawk."
--Larry Hama
http://joeguide.com/hama/email.shtml

Marvel comics writer Jim Shooter stated in a blog, "As far as I know, with regard to G.I. JOE and TRANSFORMERS Sunbow never created or contributed anything."
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/26/dining-with-didio-corruption-at-marvel-and-creating-transformers-with-jim-shooter/
https://archive.ph/MXr2X


Incompetent Writers... again
Flint and Lady Jaye ending up becoming more focused on like in episode Eau De Cobra where they attended a social function as a couple. Scarlett was phased out of the show altogether by Season 2 in favor of Flint/Lady Jaye. Hama was even asked to break up Snake Eyes/Scarlett but he and Marvel wouldn't budge on it, and since Sunbow had no back story for her and Duke, they dropped her for Lady Jaye. That alone proves that this whole D/S thing was based on nothing but laziness, a lack of writing ability and no real effort or imagination. It was only done for their own convenience since there was no real reason given for why they would be together in the first place.


G.I. Joe films... meh...
When it comes to that piece of shoot film......... oh god... where do I start... on a pre-release interview, Stephen Sommers actually stated that it was "too hard" to show a romantic relationship where one party is mute and you can't see their eyes. I wonder if he actually bothered to watch his own movie. Some of the interactions between Snake Eyes and Scarlett were actually far more caring and intimate than any high school pick up lines Wayans could spew out at her. The whole concept of a Snake Eyes/Scarlett relationship being "too hard" just says that Sommers was either too lazy to actually bother, or simply lacked the ability.

He also said that in his opinion, if you nailed down the character of Snake Eyes, you nailed down a G.I. Joe movie......... even if that is the case, Sommers sadly failed to nail down Snake Eyes or anything in the film. He made him into nothing but a masked combat machine... just like what the Sunbow series, the DiC series and what Resolute did. He could have just as easily have been another nano viper or a robot. What makes Snake Eyes such a compelling character is his humanity and the simple fact it; Scarlett is a huge part of that. He has lost everything but her, his feelings towards her and his sense of duty and honor keeps him going. If you take Scarlett out of that equation, Snake Eyes loses a great deal of what makes him a fan favorite.

Why did they even bother with Ripcord in the movie??? For one thing he wasn't black or part of the Joe team when it was first formed.
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/characters/ripcord.html
http://www.yojoe.com/action/84/ripcord.shtml
They revamped a C list character that really had no strong presence in either the comic or the cartoon in order to shoehorn slapstick "comic relief" down our throats. From what I saw, the character served absolutely no purpose in the film, other than being annoying and bombarding us with sophomoric attempts at comedy.

I fail to see why they just don't have Snake Eyes using sign language or military hand singles. In the film Scarlett and Ripcord are basically like two flirty teenagers, whereas with Snake Eyes and Scarlett, it's something much deeper than just words, and that's why people like it so much.

Many times, I've heard that the people at Sunbow and Sommers say that they didn't know how to write for a mute character... what? Really? Well Larry Hama only did it for a decade, with an entire issue or two completely silent, hell Marvel Comics in 2002 or 03 also did that......... want to know why? What's the secret?? It's called having a fracking imagination!


Good animation... shootty Writing
When it comes to Resolute... oh god... writer Warren Ellis admitted that he knew nothing about the comics when he wrote it, when he did read it, he said that he didn't care for it... and it showed. There was no character depth, everybody was a cardboard cutout, the back-stories were non-existent, too many plot holes, and out of cannon performances but that gets completely glossed over simply because of the "look" of the animation and the Matrix style action. Duke slams Snake Eyes in front of everyone, and slapped down Scarlett's self-esteem a peg or two by telling her he didn't care what her choice was. That doesn't say a lot for Scarlett in Resolute or for Ellis's writing. The only reason why it’s liked is because of its animation and action junkies will take anything if it's got gun fire and explosions.


D/S Trolls
From time to time, Snake Eyes/Scarlett fans will have to put up with D/S fans who just act like trolls. Stating all kinds of nonsense about them, even about the canon title, but as always, they can't prove a thing and they don't explain why. This is one of main reasons why I put a lot of links in this picture and others, so it's not just me saying this, I'm providing reliable sources to backup what I'm saying, using common sense and explaining my reasons.


A Solid Couple Like No Other
Snake Eyes/Scarlett are a very unique pairing in the canon title, unlike so many other comic couples, they have never flirted with others, they've never cheated on each other, they've never wondered about being with other people, they've never questioned their relationship, and they've never broken up. There love is as solid as it gets in the world of comic books. Larry Hama writes his characters as mature adults. Now this doesn't mean I think Hama's writing is perfect on every level, far from it, there's a lot to criticize. But sadly, most of the fans completely miss this and treat them as most comic book pairings, which are nothing more soap opera disasters.

The main canon G.I. Joe series are all we real SE/S fans have... and sadly it will always be like that. Never will we be able to see such moments they had in the comic books, it will never be seen or portrayed in animation form or in live action... it's just not going to happen...

Not from the so-called professional filmmakers and writers that is. Which bring me back to the short CGI film called G1JOE2012, it took a particular group of people to actually have a small love scene between them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inl9LMaOGAw

Scenes like that is all I'm asking for when it comes to them in films and in a mini or ongoing animated series. I'm not asking for an entire film or a series to be just about them with romance scenes taking up everything. Just a few scenes with lines, dialog (from Scarlett) and a kiss scene that shows without a doubt that they are a couple and are deeply in love with each other. Nothing and no one will ever have them questioning that and nothing will ever come between and drive them apart. I fail to see what's so hard about that... I really do...

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